Anyway, my Dad knows what he's talking about, not only because he learned it at school, or at work, or watched the MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour every night for like 30 years even though we all made great fun of him for it (sorry, Dad), and even reads the Wall Street Journal, and other deadly boring stuff like that; but because he's sort of medium-oldish, and he's been around to see some stuff. People my age and younger weren't even old enough to consciously remember the last real recession we had, although, I can vaguely recall sitting in the back seat of our Chevy Nova (I loved that car, and cried when we sold it to smokers), waiting in line for hours to get some gas. And I think fuel shortages from the middle east oil embargo precipitated our economic troubles in the early 80s. But really, I have no idea what I'm talking about, because who teaches history majors anything about what actually goes on in the world? Nobody, that's who.
So, here's a guest post from my Dad. I've only ever had one other guest post, and it was also my Dad, from back when I was still partly under the delusion that this was a book blog. So, check it out, too. Now, if only I could get my Mom to write something, as well...
In July of 1932 the Dow Jones industrial average closed at 41.63. In the three years since the famous stock market crash of 1929, the market had given up about 91% of its value. The most popular song that year was Brother Can You Spare a Dime?. A comedian at the time said," My broker told me to buy stocks for my old age. It worked wonderfully; within a week I was an old man. Many businesses are better off than ever", he concluded, "take red ink for example, everyone is using it."
Banks were in so much trouble that depositors were terrified of losing their money and people literally tucked their money into their mattress. Checking ground to a halt. Most transactions for the average household were done in cash. If you needed to pay your rent, you walked over to the landlord and handed him a fist full of dollars. There was no FDIC, so when a bank failed, people really lost everything. My own grandfather was angry until the day he died that he had not known enough to get his $2500 out of a small bank in Safford, Arizona in time. That was a life savings for recently married 30-year-old Ralph Layton. I can still feel his pain and frustration. He had to put off his dream of building a home and buying a farm for his family. Easy loans for homes and farms would not be around again for a few years, so he set out to save again.
Life suddenly looked bleak, as people understood that realizing their dreams was going to take longer than they'd hoped. By the end of the great depression, most people who had a job felt grateful just to be able to feed their families.
People who knew what it was like to fear starvation could not turn away another hungry family. Welfare, as we know it, had its origin in the depression as well. My Mom remembers running into the house in Central, Graham County, Arizona, to tell her own mother that the "Okies were coming" so she needed to get them something to eat. (Those "Okies" were from all over the midwest, and beyond, but they all got called Okies.) So, in spite of hardship, there were some good things about that time.
The financial crisis today has the same cause as the problem that created
the depression. A bubble created by easy and abusive use of credit, burst, and the entire system had to deleverage. When banks have bad loans, they must increase their own capital. If they cannot, they fail. When people cannot obtain credit, the money supply deflates and the price level drops. When that happens quickly, everyone panics. They become angry and confused, as homes, investments and jobs are lost. It feels the same to us as it did to our grandparents that experienced the great depression. This time, I hope, the government understands that they must use every tool necessary to prevent the money supply from deflating, and maintain our confidence in the financial system. Of course, the bigger the panic, the greater the task. Safeguards like the FDIC, the welfare system, the bank regulation, the Federal Reserve's efforts to increase the money supply and guarantee our deposits tend to make this one a little less scary, but it still gives us all a big headache. I think it helps me understand how my grandparents must have felt in 1930.
A friend of mine that I worked with at Nestle for many years was planning to retire next year. He told me yesterday that his 401K was now a 201K, and he would need to work another 10 years to retire with the same income that he had planned to have next year.
Or, maybe like the rest of us, and our grandparents before us, he will need to adjust to this "new reality."
My Dad, Big Ross, with my son, Little Ross, at Skyline, nearly 10 years ago.
13 comments:
I feel like your dads friend, my 401 is now a 201.... Great post from your dad. I see the apple doesnt fall far from the tree
Oh! Thanks for trying to smarten us up some before the election. Unfortunately some of us won't be voting since the voter registration form is still sitting on the window sill in the kitchen and the deadline for overseas registration was Oct. 15th. I'm so mad at myself.
great post. I sheepishly had no idea what was really going on either.
Nice post by your dad! After my great uncle died (he lived through The Depression), his family found over $100,000 in various hiding places throughout his house. He was a super duper tight wad until the end, and would even steal the Sweet-n-Low from restaurant tables. I'm not going to start swiping sugar packets, but he makes me want to start making my own stash.
I had to have my husband explain it all out for me. I thought the same thing you did - if the banks made the loans, they should be responsible for them or go out of business. But I think I understand now why that can't happen.
My mom was born in 1930 in a small town on a small farm and learned to make do with very little. She has always lived frugally - even when she didn't need to. She ALWAYS preached: Fix it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. I am learning these lessons all over again with our current situation. I think these economic times will be a learning experience for all of us.
Can you ask your Dad a question that has been bugging me? Everyone keeps talking about the FDIC like it's this wonderful Knight in Shining Armor that is going to swoop in and save us from all the bad guys and make sure none of us lose our hard earned money.
But who is the FDIC and why wouldn't they run out of money just like everyone else has run out of money? I can't imagine that there is this big pot of Leprechaun Gold sitting around somewhere that is equal to all the billions of dollars people have sitting in the banks. But I guess if they even hinted at that, there would be such a rush to take money out that ALL the banks would fail.
I guess the question is, what are the really smart people like your Dad doing about their money? I know stashing it all in a mattress sounds crazy, but right now, maybe that's not a bad choice....
I don't mean to sound grim but I think we ought to save money, and big time. However, I don't think we should save a mill in our walls. What earthly good was it doing there? (for pete's sake!) (and, bless his heart)
Wow, thanks for clueing me in on what is really going on!! I was just saying to someone the other day, "I have never really been into politics and the economy and such but this year I have really been getting into it." they informed me that means i am getting older! So tell your dad now not only am I "older" but he has made me wiser!
I love Uncle Ross..he's just the best! I am like you..know nothing and care little for all the economy mumbojumbo! Drew on the other hand loves it...will be sending him a link to your (Uncle Ross') post...thanks! I enjoyed it!
Thanks for the info! I, like many others, am pretty much in the dark about what's really going on in this country right now.
I still don't really understand it. But I feel a lot better that someone as smart as your dad is ok with it. Well, maybe not OK, but at least not panicking.
Thanks for the information! I have been fretting for awhile about all of this. As you can imagine, as the wife of a sales manager, we are feeling the sting of this economy big time. I'm hoping the crisis will end soon!
What a great post ... I appreciate the perspective and candor.
BTW, I'm a lurker of your blog from mormonmommyblogs ... love your sense of humor!
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